This is part 2 of Knowledge and the Gettier Problem. This addresses some of the things left in the comments section, so read that as well.
I have to agree with Graham in that the problem lies with justification for the propositions. It is, in a sense, logically spurious, but I think that statement alone doesn't address the possibility of whether "a man with 10 cents in his pocket will get the job" and "Jones owns a Ford or Brown is in Barcelona" should be considered knowledge IF Jones actually got the job or if Jones actually owned a Ford (and, in my opinion, I think they should be considered knowledge--to say otherwise would be neglecting the fact that logical operations are truth preserving). I started writing this before the comments came in so it might seem to backtrack a little bit, but here it is. Oh, and I apologize that this is somewhat incomplete... I've just lost the will to go on.
My first intuition upon first learning of this problem was that the justification condition of JTB conditions was the culprit. One option is to say that Smith was not actually justified in believing P1 (in both cases). In case 1, Smith was justified only to the extent that one can be justified by someone else's claim. But how is this different than believing pi has infinitely many decimal places without a pattern when told that it is so by a mathematician? Or how about when we are taught that Australia is a continent southeast of Asia by our 7th grade geography teacher? We most certainly would ignore claims made by the compulsive liar or delusional schizophrenic, but we also consider both of these cases to have reliable, and thereby justifiable, sources of knowledge. Even if we ascribe such reliability to the hiring manager (besides, the hiring manager really was telling the truth!), the problem remains. If you want to say that we in fact don't gain knowledge when told facts by others and we gain knowledge only when we ourselves verify that a belief is in fact true, then I will have to say that I don't know that the world is round and that the sun is the center of our solar system and so on. But wait, aren't all of these knowledge? I think the contradictions that we arrive to by considering other people as unviable sources of justification lets us safely rule this one out since we are appealing to the common-sense notion of knowledge.
That is not to say that the likes of P3 could never by themselves satisfy the JTB conditions. If Smith knew that he had 10 cents in his pocket as Jones did, and knew that Smith and Jones were the only ones being considered for the job, P3 would be by itself justified and true. However, in Gettier's first case, Smith was only justified in believing that Jones would get the job and that Jones had 10 cents in his pocket. In Gettier's case, then, P3 is knowledge only if P1/P2 are knowledge. When P1/P2 fails (or if you want to say that it never was knowledge, then you can say that too), so does P3.
I think the constraints are similar for the second case. The only difference here is that instead of making an existential claim that includes a certain category of things as members of the set, we are adding an arbitrary propositions to the set. I think we can say that both of Gettier's cases involve making propositions from an instantiation to making a proposition from a set of possible instantiations.
Anyway, my conclusion is that P3 is knowledge if and only if P1 and P2 are knowledge. I say this because that P3 is an extension of P1 and P2, and little else alone. If you want to say that P1 and P2 are knowledge because they would have been true, then so is P3, but only up to the point when the hiring manager changed his mind (unless you want to say P1 is still knowledge even after that fact). If you want to say that P1 and P2 are not knowledge because they are predictive by nature and thus subject to falsity, then P3 is also not knowledge. You can discuss which of these schools of thought you think is best, but I prefer to stay away from these tough questions.
This solution is akin to Alvin Goodman's solution (or rather, his epistemological theory that tries to buff up the justification condition to avoid the Gettier problem) but the scope of his theory is much greater. That is, he tries to explain the connection between the world and the contents of our experience (I think), and then includes a little tidbit about how a something in the experience must cause a justified belief. It is to my understanding, anyway, that he runs into a bit of trouble when defining the necessary/sufficient causal relationship between experience and belief. I tried to avoid this burden by compartmentalizing the perculiarity to the logical transformations of knowledge, regardless of whatever JTB could ever be satisfied (of course, I take for granted that it can).
This is long, confusing, and unclear, and I apologize. I'll try to write more concisely and in a more timely manner in the future.
Great post – clearly a lot of good work put into that. I hope the fact that I’m going to reiterate my past objection intends to disrespect nothing and no one… frustrating as reading my crap again may be ;)
ReplyDeleteSo my purpose here is to clarify an apparent misunderstanding about my original argument. I am not making a claim about the nature of epistemology when I recognize the significance of the “leap of faith” intrinsic to the equipment of conventional knowledge – a piece of knowledge retains its fallibility no matter what the evidence for it may be, so we can only be convinced to put our confidence into the sense that piece of knowledge offers about the world. Clearly, my original suggestion to materially factor epistemologically solipsistic elements into the JTB conditions is a useless one: our task here is to preserve JTB conditions, while adjusting our understanding of what a JTB condition is or how powerful it really is.
So according to my original proposition, JTB is only flawed insofar as our expectations of knowledge take an absolute character:
“ When P1/P2 fails (or if you want to say that it never was knowledge, then you can say that too), so does P3.
Anyway, my conclusion is that P3 is knowledge if and only if P1 and P2 are knowledge. I say this because that P3 is an extension of P1 and P2, and little else alone. If you want to say that P1 and P2 are knowledge because they would have been true, then so is P3, but only up to the point when the hiring manager changed his mind (unless you want to say P1 is still knowledge even after that fact.) If you want to say that P1 and P2 are not knowledge because they are predictive by nature and thus subject to falsity, then P3 is also not knowledge. You can discuss which of these schools of thought you think is best, but I prefer to stay away from these tough questions.”
The above adjustment seems to affect our understanding of the strength of the propositions used, and not the logical system we pass them through. It seems that by recognizing the dependence of P3’s truth upon the consisting truth of its foundations is accounting for the limited predictability of knowledge. The only way to defend JTB is by preserving its logic, which means we must instead adjust how we categorize and evaluate these premises and their relationships.
I trust your philosophical capabilities more than my own, so, given that, I trying less to ride on the coattails of Minku’s successful explanation than I am pleading for an opportunity to realize where I’ve gone wrong.